AAS Senate Meeting Minutes, Transcript-style
Monday November 7, 2005
Call to Order: 9:14PM
Approval of Minutes: Approved
Officer Reports
- Mike Simmons
- Noah Isserman
- Remember to check Blackboard
- Ryan Smith
- PBG Resolution to JC; ready to be sent to Senate
- Website; Clubs recognition
- Richa Bhala
- First night of budget deliberations
- “Only” need to cut $100,000 to meet budget
- Austin Yim
- Recording Secretary needed
Committee Reports
- CEP: Silberstein and Gyorody not happy about writing course discussion among faculty; would like to have feedback from students
Announcements
- DASAC: Saturday at 5, Sunday at 2, 8
- Isserman: Next week’s meeting may start at 8:30PM for more discussion about the 50-year Master Library Plan
- Benson: E-mail for help on student spirit, cause, especially with concern with Williams Game; possible tabling
- Smith: Comments about Dean Lieber’s e-mail; send reactions to Smith
- Das: Stepping down as chair of Dining Services; Space Allocation Committee
- Borsellino: Senate Retreat: tentatively February 4, 2006 on campus; it will be fun
- Kim: Senate Project: Bonus Bucks – questions about laundry, other use than food
- Bhala: Dining Services had control of the money; but now one office handles that
- Smith: Senate Project available!
- Maynard: meeting with Dean Boykin-East about HBO as part of TV package
- Isserman: met with Dean Haynes
Special Orders
- Committee Elections
- Dining Services
i. Pan nomination; accepted
- Inter-Departmental Fund
i. Nominations: Jelani; accepted
- Space Allocation Committee
i. Class of 2007
1. Nominations: McKay; accepted
ii. Class of 2008
1. Nominations: Bookman; accepted
iii. Class of 2009
1. Nominations: Nielsen; accepted
- FLICS Representative
i. Bhala: No need
ii. Nominations: Gottlieb; accepted
- BC Recommendations
- Bhala: two tabled items from last week
- Questions of a General Nature
i. Bookman: Prism CD question
1. Gehring: shortened magazine issue; CD accompanies issue
2. Isserman: please refer to BC recommendations comments
ii. Monfrini: WAMH College Music Journal
1. Das: CMJ acts like Billboard; what music is being played; provides free music; as a non-profit, required to play new music 1/3rd of air time; the subscription allows fulfillment of this requirement more easily;
- Maynard: Motion to approve the BC Recommendations; seconded
i. Gyorody: Motion to increase from $801.25 to $1070 for Amherst College Rowing Association (Crew); seconded
1. Gyorody: Rep provides sufficient reasons for sliders
2. Gottlieb: the budget is as large as it is; there was talk of moving things from Crew budget to others
3. Nielsen: Rescinded
4. McKay: equipment needs to be maintained
5. Tran: too expensive?
6. Das: Call the Question; no objections
7. Roll Call Vote
8. Motion passes
ii. Benson: Motion to cut in half the Karate uniform cost from $120 to $60; seconded
1. Benson: low dues; not a good idea to pay for uniform
2. Gyorody: dues are for the instructor; those who go to practice frequently may be able to have something to commemorate experience
3. Maynard: Passes
4. McKay: problem with them keeping uniforms; compare with other clubs
5. Gottlieb: in particular; they were asking for 3 less than normal because 3 seniors had left behind their uniforms; how valuable are going to be these uniforms after 4 years of purchase?
6. Das: other inexpensive sports that pay for only a coach, etc. still have higher dues; testing is also individual – it’s more individual, not team-oriented
7. Arja: anything that is purchased by AAS is its property
8. Stein: disagree with some; team came to BC for 4 uniforms despite need for 7; the remaining 3 are being paid for by the team members; just because other teams have higher dues does not mean this team should either;
9. Rothschild: passes
10. Monfrini: inconsistency is a problem
11. Bookman: it seems silly to fund uniforms for those who do not show up often; those committed would be willing to pay for the uniform
12. Bhala: this is a tiny amount
13. Maynard: Call
14. …
15. Move the Question; Voice vote ambiguous; Division:
a. Manual vote: 18 Y, 7 N
b. Question has been moved
16. Roll Call Vote; Motion fails
iii. Gottlieb: Passes
iv. Stein: Call the Question; objected
v. Rothschild: YAI funding is unconstitutional since it involves previous year
vi. Silberstein: Motion to cut YAI funding to $0; seconded
1. Silberstein: If unconstitutional, then can’t fund!; also, speaker’s name is not mentioned;
2. Serrill-Robins: This is the reason why rollover money exists;
3. Gyorody: number of questionable things in this request: YAI managed to pay for the costs despite them asking for money – how was this possible?;
4. Das: pretty cut and dry: why BC funded: the fact that AAS has lots of rollover money; so, more lenient; urge to call
5. McKay: Call; objection
6. Cobbs: Constitution is not perfect; it gives guidelines; willing to subvert unreasonable parts to make reasonable actions;
7. Bhala: Problem is that if Senate says it so, then it’s fine; language for check requests is not explicit either; it is at own discretion
8. Stein: Move the Question; seconded
9. Voice vote: Motion passes
10. Roll Call Vote; Motion PASSES
vii. Borsellino: Call
viii. Roll Call Vote; Motion passes
ix. BC Recommendations with amendments PASS
New Business
- PBG Resolution
- Stein: Resolution to President Marx
- Passes with friendly amendments
- Rothschild: Senate responsibility
- [NOTICE: some matter lost due to distracting business of the Secretary]
- Borsellino: About Calling the Question and Moving the Question, one has the right to move the question and object to calling the question as well
- Das: Don’t feel like Moving the Question is a bad thing
- Maynard: It is difficult for BC members to hear the same arguments made in the Senate as in the BC.
- Silberstein: Senate could spend all the time discussing BC recommendations, etc., but moving the question ought to be used
- Benson: fine with calls and motions to question, except when opinions may change;
- Gottlieb: If a question is not moved, then the most stubborn Senator makes the decision of how long the debate is;
- Simmons: small school, with small Senate, and the propensity to take things personally is great; parliamentary procedure is there to make things more efficient; calling probably has no malicious intent; BC recommendations take too much time away from discussing other things
- Gyorody: many questions made in Senate may be answered by the BC recommendation’s comments
- Rothschild: interesting points: another: (alleged) total lack of regard for the constitution
- Serrill-Robins: moving is ok for filibusters, etc.; but otherwise, calling the question should be used; those who know they are repeating should not do so
- McKay: passes
- Benson: elected to this body because there are 8 senators but only 10 ran; if more ran, then probably not would have been elected; thus respect for AAS Constitution; also, this isn’t the US Senate; AAS Constitution is for the benefit of the student body; if Senate sees a way to benefit the body that disagrees or is not congruent with the language of the Constitution, does not feel a need to be restricted to the bounds of the Constitution; those problems that arise seem to appear
- Rothschild: implore to just look at constitution
- Das: Cobbs had mentioned that some parts are un-navigable; and those things should be handled; as Parliamentarian, is horrified by the maneuvering of the Senate;
- Cobbs: new constitution comments [LOST]; following judicial philosophy recommended: if constitution is reasonable, then follow it; if not, then follow the spirit and not necessarily the words; be careful of getting on the high horse with regard to the constitutionality of the document; be wary of these claims
- Lundi-Harris:
- Gottlieb: it would be great to take a Constitution seriously;
- Nielsen: there is always going to be differences in the Constitution’s interpretation
- Bhala: please read it!; there are recommendations, but Senate can override by majority
- Yim: AAS is reaction from SGO; many clauses reflect this reaction
- Isserman: AAS = declaration of independence from SGO
- Arja: let’s stop [ironically, is the last speaker]
- Blackboard
- If Blackboard is under the impression that documents are not read by 8:30 (or 8:15), then a half-absence will be assigned
- E-mail reminder
- If BC Recommendations can be obtained at least 24 hours prior to Senate; then problems may happen
- 48 hours may be possible.
- Library
- Plan on being here early
Meeting adjournment at 11:03PM
Table of Roll Call Votes
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SENIOR SENATORS |
Crew |
Karate |
YAI |
BC |
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Rania Arja |
Y |
N |
Y |
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Rob Cobbs |
Y |
N |
Y |
Y |
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Andrew Gehring |
Y |
N |
Y |
Y |
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David Gottlieb |
N |
N |
Y |
Y |
|
Caitlyn Phan |
Y |
N |
Y |
Y |
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Jessica Rothschild |
N |
Y |
Y |
Y |
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Mira Serrill-Robins |
Y |
N |
Y |
Y |
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Emily Silberstein |
Y |
N |
Y |
Y |
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JUNIOR SENATORS |
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Avi Das |
A |
A |
A |
A |
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Janice Djabatey |
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Andrea Gyorody |
Y |
N |
Y |
Y |
|
Charmel Maynard |
N |
N |
N |
Y |
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Jordan McKay |
Y |
N |
N |
Y |
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Gloria Monfrini |
Y |
N |
N |
Y |
|
Ashley Rose |
Y |
N |
Y |
Y |
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Tim Zeiser |
Y |
N |
N |
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SOPHOMORE SENATORS |
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Patrick Benson |
Y |
Y |
N |
Y |
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Adam Bookman |
Y |
N |
Y |
Y |
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Raj Borsellino |
Y |
N |
N |
Y |
|
Daniel De Zeeuw |
Y |
N |
A |
Y |
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Julie Kim |
Y |
N |
N |
Y |
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Jason Kung |
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Samantha Siegal |
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Josh Stein |
Y |
N |
N |
Y |
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FRESHMEN SENATORS |
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Jacqueline De La Fuente |
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Anneliese Koehler |
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Paul Nielsen |
Y |
N |
N |
Y |
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Nicholas Pastan |
Y |
N |
N |
Y |
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Jelani Lundy-Harris |
Y |
N |
Y |
Y |
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Michele Tran |
Y |
N |
Y |
Y |
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Ayyappan Venkatraman |
Y |
N |
N |
N |
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Shantel Watters |
Y |
N |
N |
Y |
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EXECUTIVE BOARD |
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Mike Simmons |
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Noah Isserman |
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Richa Bhala |
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Ryan Smith |
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Austin Yim |
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Explanation
- Crew: Motion to increase fund to $1070
- Karate: Motion to cut in half uniform costs
- YAI: Motion to cut funding to $0
- BC: Motion to approve BC Recommendations with amendments 1 and 3